John Browne-Plymouth again

It looks that John may have been a Bristol England native. He was involved in the creation of a trading settlement in Maine in 1625, several years before the Plymouth colony was created. Considering that names in the colony associated with him were named for locations in England around Bristol, such as Bristol, Taunton and Swansea, it would seem that this may be a viable option. One suggestion was that he descends through the Eastern family of Beachworth Castle through William who removed to Tavistock. In the book Mary Browne: a true account of her life, Thomas is recognized as his father and William the famous poet his brother. But there was also a Browne family that existed in Bristol since before surnames were created. Still on the hunt.

john browne-plymouth

John and Samuel Browne were brothers and they were the two expelled in 1629 who returned 1632 or 33. A Kellam Browne had signed an agreement in Cambridge in 1629 to travel to New England but never did so. He was a country gentleman of no inconsiderble fortune and university training. He signed at the same time as saltonstall, winthrop, pinchon, vassal and dudley. Still no confirmation that he was related to the brothers browne.
Hugh Browne, of salem, had two children baptized in the parish church of Stepney in Middlesex, England 1641. He is of Ratcliffe and a mariner. S0n John was born about 1631 and Daniel about 1634 in Salem.
Again, not sure of any connection with John and Samuel

More on John Brown of Plymouth

I just found a book on google dealing with the history of Boston that mentions a John and Samuel Browne who were in the Endicott group who migrated in 1628 or there abouts. There were originally Hugh, John, Kellam and Samuel. John and Samuel disagreed with the colony on religious matters and were sent back to England. This would have been John and Samuel of Kent. They were recommended to the council there, Davenport, Eaton, Winthrop and others who were forming a goverment in Plymouth England for the establishment of a colony, that John Browne was made an assistant and would be of great help to the committee in England and should be given 200 acres when Davenport and the others arrive. William Brown may have been another brother (Kellam) first mentioned. Hugh doesn't appear again. Samuel doesn't either and must have elected to remain in England or died. Anyway the John of Kent who was rejected was probably the same as the John who returned with the company. Perhaps he returned in 1632 with his family. But there's hardly room for doubt that he did return as he was again assistant to Winthrop. The original colonists pretty much adhered to the Church of England but Winthrop sent a letter to the king upon their departure in 1630, outlining their intention of breaking away completely. They had a charter to settle Plymouth, but Endicott had been given orders to take over the Bay before they arrived.
The next question is, was John Browne native to Kent or had he removed there?

John Browne, Plymouth Colony and Dorothy Who?

Here we go again. There are trees out there who have John Browne being born all over England, but his place of birth hasn't been established with any certainty. The John Browne of Kent was returned to England so it wasn't he. In a research article Http://newsgroups. derkeilert.com his father is thought to be Phillip, elder brother of Reverend Robert Browne. There is a chance he is John Browne of Louth, Lincolnshire. He may have been bapt. Alford, possible home of Philip's wife. So again, people are spreading supposition, and most likely, erroneous supposition as fact in their family trees. There's no evidence of Dorothy being a Beauchamp, though the family was acquainted with Beauchamps. But do you really think that he and his mythical father Thomas both were married to a Dorothy Beauchamp? And the William that someone else names as his father has no basis in fact either. This John was definitely associated with the Wray and Vane families and John Robinson of Leydon, as was John in Plymouth. Read the article in this newsgroup, it's in pdf format and well written and researched. Let me repeat well written and researched. Need I say it again? http://newsgroups.derkeilert.com/Archive/Soc/soc.genealogy.medieval/2006-02/msg00017.html

Jacobina Goad, wife Andrew Willet; parents of Thomas of Swansea, first mayor of New York

A history in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, vol 33, mentions that Jacobina Goad's father was Thomas Goad who succeeded his father as rector of King's College Cambridge, but Thomas was Jacobina's brother, not her father. English records mention that Jacobina was the daughter of Andrew's friend, Roger Goad.
Andrew and Roger, though 30 years difference in ages, both preached at St. Margarets and were highly esteemed ministers.

Edward Bates-Weymouth Massachusetts

There are several guesses as to the parentage of Edward Bates, all being guesses but included in family histories as being certain. Edward was supposedly a manservant to Thomas Leverett. Thomas Leverett came from Boston Lincolnshire in 1630 so if he was is servant he would have arrived then, being about 25 years old. Being a son of James of Lydd is probably not legit as no such son is mentioned in his will and it is supposed that his son Edward had died in Lydd. If he did come with Leverett then he isn't the edward who married susannah putnam in Buckingham in 1632 and he couldn't have been here in 1633 with three children.
So clean up your tree until some connection is proven.